The Witching Hour Chronicles

Messages Hidden in the Shadows of Sleep

Christine Episode 12

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Ever woken up from a dream so vivid it felt real, only to wonder if it held deeper meaning or was just your mind playing tricks? Join us on the Witching Hour Chronicles as I, Christine, alongside first-time guests TonI and Kacie, explore the fascinating realm of dreams and nightmares. From the curious notion that every face in a dream has been seen in real life to the mysterious occurrences of astral projection, we navigate the ethereal connections and potential messages hidden in our nocturnal visions. Our conversation delves into the complexities of why some dreams linger while others fade, and whether they might be messages from the beyond, offering comfort or warnings.

Dreams are more than just fleeting moments; they are narratives woven with emotion, reflection, and sometimes, uncanny glimpses into the future. We share personal stories of lucid dreaming and the eerie sensation of dreams predicting real-life events, like a premonition of a plane crash. Through these stories, we ponder whether dreams could guide us through personal fears and anxieties, encouraging us to interpret them beyond the confines of dream dictionaries. Kacie brings a poignant touch with tales of her encounters with her deceased father, illustrating how such dreams can serve as a bridge to healing and closure.

As we wrap up this enlightening episode, we reflect on the value of paying attention to dream messages as a form of spiritual communication. These nocturnal narratives can guide, protect, and connect us, sometimes unveiling intuitive warnings or leading to life-altering decisions. We invite our listeners to share their experiences and feedback, particularly on Toni and Kacie's debut, as we express our gratitude for their support. Here's to sweet dreams filled with meaning, connection, and maybe even a hint of the extraordinary.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Witching Hour Chronicles. I'm your host, christine. So on today's episode, I have two guests with me. They've never done a podcast before, so I think they're a little nervous. I'm nervous for them, but I have Tony and Casey. Hello, they're not going to know who's who, because I totally introduced it. Anyways, if the sound is different than usual, it's because we're at my work, so it might kind of sound a little far away, I think. I don't know, I'm not using a mic, I'm just using the laptop. So there you go. It's all good. It sounded good. We'll see stuff. We shall see.

Speaker 1:

We're going to talk about dreams, the different kinds of dreams. If you heard that, that was our ice machine dropping ice in a restaurant. Yeah, we're going to talk about dreams, the different types. Yeah, I just totally went blank, holy cow. And then we'll share some personal stories of dreams and then discuss the different, uh, topics of dreams spiritual, the spiritual side of dreams, because I definitely think there's something about that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, so our first kind of dreams are just pretty much your standard dreams, uh, so, according to the national sleep foundation, we typically dream about four to six times per night wow, interesting, uh, of course, we don't remember them. Most of the time we don't even once we go to the next dream we don't remember. We usually remember the one right before we wake up and a lot of times we don't necessarily remember that. Do you think there's a reason why that we don't remember? I definitely very much so believe that you only remember the dreams, or the parts of dreams that you're supposed to remember. I feel like there's a meaning there. Yeah, we'll get more into that, but I definitely think definitely sleeping and dreaming some of it can be just your subconscious whatever you're thinking about before you go to bed, kind of thing. Some of it can be just your subconscious whatever you're thinking about before you go to bed, kind of thing. But I also think that I you get messages from your spirit guides, your yeah, loved ones that have passed. I'm definitely big on that and if you remember a dream, it's because there's something in that dream you need to know, right? Um, so dreaming happens pretty much all through the night once you fall asleep, but your most vivid dreams and the ones you remember the most happen during REM sleep. So rapid eye movement See in here it says on my notes your dreams definitely can be influenced by whatever you're thinking about before you go to sleep, what you experience throughout the day.

Speaker 1:

Also, it can bring to light things that you've been avoiding thinking about and things you've got kind of anxiety about. It says about 65% of the elements of dreams are associated with things you've experienced while you're awake. I've also heard before that when you see people in your dreams, it's because you've seen them at least once in real life and your brain just automatically remembers that. So even if you dream about someone that you don't think you know you probably have seen at one time or another in your life. Yeah, and we are shaking our heads and nodding in agreement, though you can't see us.

Speaker 1:

We should do a video. I'm just kidding. No, thank you. Where was I 65% Okay? Um, where was I 65 okay? So we can skip that in the news.

Speaker 1:

That's really nothing, um, I don't know. I guess I've never noticed this. It says um, most dreams are in color, but some people will dream entirely in black and white. I don't think I've ever. I do know that I've had black and white dreams, but I don't really remember seeing any color in my dreams. Really, now that I'm thinking about it, I guess that's not something I've ever paid attention to. I do know one time and I know we've discussed this while we've been working all three of us work together, by the way uh, astral projection happens while you're sleeping and those who don't know what astral projection is, it's like an out-of-body experience, your soul leaving your body. I'm losing my voice all of a sudden. And I have heard I've never looked into it, I've never researched it, but I have heard a lot of those astral projection type dreams are usually black and white, all right, and the one time I remember having something like that, when I was probably about 15 years old holy shit, the phone's ringing it was in black and white, all right.

Speaker 1:

I can't say that I. I know that I've had astral projection dreams, but I can't say that they were in black and white. I'm pretty sure I always dream in color. Yeah, I feel like mine are color, not like bright colors, but color. Yeah, I feel like I don't know. Now I can't seem to recall anything with color, but not necessarily black and white, but very, maybe dull, muted, like grainy, yeah, and like almost like. Okay, the Wizard of Oz is black and and white, but they're almost like have like brownish colors. Yeah, I almost feel like those are my dreams. Okay, and a lot of times they're dark. I think I do mostly dream in black and white. Now that I'm sitting here really thinking about it, that's interesting, interesting. Uh. Also, the less stressed are, the more pleasant your dreams can be. Let's see. Let's go on to the next kind of dreams, because that's kind of a lot for just that one.

Speaker 1:

Nightmares I only, I honestly only have nightmares when I'm sick and when and I mean not every time, but if I'm really sick, have a fever or whatever it's, I have horrible dreams, all just a little delirious a little bit. Yeah, um. So nightmares are dreams that are scary and disturbing, and everybody has these kind of dreams, maybe. Maybe not on a regular basis, but everybody has them. Potential causes include watching or reading something scary before you go to bed, sleep deprivation, eating before you go to bed, medication, side effects Tony, you got that. Look on your face about the eating. Next time you tell me about a bad dream, I'm going to say did you eat something? Chances are. Yes, let's see Having a fever or being sick, sleep disorders I can't talk Sleep disorders such as sleep apnea, sleep, a nightmare disorder, and I'm assuming that's the next kind of dream Maybe a night terror or narcolepsy.

Speaker 1:

People experiencing a lot of stress or who have mental health conditions like anxiety may experience more frightening dreams. Up to 71% of people with PTSD may experience nightmares are very like reoccurring. The three most common themed of nightmares is death or dying, physical violence, being chased or hunted, and I feel like I've had all three of those kinds of dreams. I feel like I've had all three of those kind of dreams. Yeah, I definitely have had being chased or somebody like I'm hiding because somebody is actively, I guess, hunting for me yes, searching, because they want to kill me, whether it's with a gun or something, reminding me of a whole lot of dreams, and it's like things you don't necessarily think about until you start reading or hearing stuff like this that, oh yeah, I've had that kind of dream. Um, okay, so night terrors is the next on the list.

Speaker 1:

My son used to have night terrors when he was a toddler. He would wake up, he wouldn't even wake up, he would just, in his sleep, start screaming and freaking out. My youngest daughter did as well, and I'd have to carry him. She'd still be asleep and I'd have to carry her and walk the floor with her and as soon as I took her back to the room so I feel like there was something with the room she would just be like you know, yeah, it was pretty well. I've always heard when someone's doing that, don't wake them up because that could have traumatic effects on them.

Speaker 1:

Um, so a night terror is a type of sleep disorder more common in children, uh, and a night terror is when you wake up terrified but only have like a vague idea of what you were dreaming about. Most of the time during the dreams aren't remembered at all. I know my son was a toddler, so he really it was before he could really communicate a lot of things, so he couldn't tell me. I think my daughter daughter was just before kindergarten, but she did not. We never woke her during these episodes and I don't know that she recalled anything and I wasn't going to say I never heard. Nick was only about Figure that memory. Nick was only about like three years old, I feel like, and I don't think he really could have told me, if he even understood Right, what was happening.

Speaker 1:

Right, during a night terror, a person can wake up screaming, kicking, moving violently, jumping out of bed, sweating, breathing hard, a racing heart, disoriented. So the difference between a nightmare and a night terror is night terrors most commonly happen when you're not in a REM sleep and nightmares typically happen while you are in REM sleep. That's very interesting. And nightmares typically happen while you are in REM sleep. That's very interesting. Well, you think about it, you, if you wake up that way in a night terror, you're waking up like that. You're not in REM if you're waking up, right, right.

Speaker 1:

Your next kind of dream and I think this is the last one I have on the list there are definitely a lot more I could have gone into, but these were the most common. So your last one we have is lucid dreams. So lucid dream is when you are aware that you're dreaming while you're dreaming, and this often happens during REM sleep. Most people don't have these on a regular basis. I could tell you, almost all my dreams are lucid dreams. I have to say I can. Most of mine are as well.

Speaker 1:

I can control my dreams, sometimes like I know. Or sometimes I know I'm dreaming and I'm trying to change what's happening, yes, and I can't. Or just give I, sometimes they and they. I'll wake up and be like, okay, that's enough, but then I'll go back to sleep and it'll continue right where it left off. You go right back into it. Yeah, no, thank you. Yeah, 55% of people experience at least this at least once in their life. That blows my mind because it happens to me so often. Yeah, yeah, see. And it says and then I also read that you can't. Some people can control their dream, but it takes practice. So those are all my descriptions on the different kinds of dreams.

Speaker 1:

Anyone have anything to add? Well, it just makes me think about many dreams that I have. I know that I'm dreaming and there's a great deal of emotion or physical things happening and crying. Perhaps you know being brokenhearted, just like, oh, my god, I can't believe this is happening. Why you know, uh, and wake up to that, I feel like crying and that that spirit within you is just like devastated. I feel like lucid dreams are definitely dreams of mine that have the most meaning to them, like there's, I feel like there's something telling me, giving me a message that I definitely need to know. Uh, I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of a specific example. But well, I know we talk about this shit all the time. Right now, well, wow, I do, I do have.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't know if I I don't know where I categorize this guy, if it's lucid nightmare, don't know. It feels like all of the above, but, crazy as it may seem, I'm having a dream and in the dream I know I'm dreaming, and then the very things in the dream was all fear, just fear-based. It was just all the fear that I have ever had in my whole life, all coming at once and I was like ugh, you know, I don't know what to do here. And the hubby's lying next to me and I wake him up and I say, oh man, I'm having a really bad nightmare, you know. And he's like this is still the dream portion. And he says, oh, you'll be fine, just just go back to sleep. So it continues. And a couple of minutes later I'm awake, I'm present, and I wake him up and I say I'm having a really bad night here. And he's like you'll be fine, just go back to sleep. Blew my mind. There's a couple things that come to mind.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so one thing a lot of people don't know about me and I think I've talked to you both about this before that's where I get all of my guides, my messages from my guides and from spirits is in my dreams and I'm really. I can interpret dreams. I don't use a book to tell you how I'm feeling about it and what I get from that is let it go, let it go. But also I got a little bit of a, a dream I can't use my words right sometimes um, a little bit of a prophecy there, like because in your dream he told you you're fine, go back to sleep, right, and it really happened, yes, which was the part that blew me away. But I was shaken, yeah, really hardcore.

Speaker 1:

But before you got to that point, I just kept hearing the words let it go and let your fear go and ultimately, um, over time, that really did take place. I, I, I mean I was, I was way younger and my kids were little, and I mean Sage was just a baby oh, sorry, I said her name out loud, uh. But uh, yeah, I'm sure she'll never listen to the podcast. She, what she doesn't know won't tell her. You're on a podcast, we're gonna edit that out, but you know that truly did take place. You know, uh, because I was a young mom and, you know, alone most of the time because the hubby was always at work, so you know, and then he had to leave and I was like, oh man, now I'm stuck with all of this, but it was certainly a message of working through possible anxiety. Obviously fear lots of it, but I don't. I can't say that I've ever since that time had anything come to me that way. That was so real and that had such a great message. So I'm thankful for the dream, but, man, it freaked me out. Well, yeah, it's like you predicted what was going to happen. Within minutes of it happening it was like, oh, this is too much.

Speaker 1:

Well, there was one time I had a dream that and this was before I really got good at listening to my intuition about what dreams mean, and I did. I do have a couple of really big dream books, so I would look it up. But I had a dream about a plane crash. This was years ago and I was, I was home, or I was driving home, and in front of me I see this plane in the distance crashing, and not I don't even remember the exact details of it, I just remember seeing this plane crash. And then it kind of weirded me out because of just the feeling I had when I woke up. Yeah, and so I looked it up in one of my books and it said something about dreaming about.

Speaker 1:

A plane crash is one of those dreams that you know. Watch the news. Something similar is going to happen. And it was like the next day, a small, like you know, those like little, tiny two people planes crash near like somewhere in the area. It's wild and, yeah, I don't have dreams like that very often. Yeah, rather not, it's wild. I don't. Honestly, I don't want to know what's going to happen in the future. It's almost scary to me, like I don't want to know. I don't think people should necessarily know. How do you know this girl, um, trying to think of welcome back?

Speaker 1:

Um, I do have dreams, though that are so they feel so real that I have to think back later. Was I dreaming that or did that really happen? It could be like days later something pops into my head. I go wait a second. Do you ever feel like that may be something from and this is throwing you know another aspect into the world dreams, but do you feel like that might possibly be something that you have experienced, possibly in a previous time? Well, it could be past life. It could be almost like a deja vu experience, even though deja vu is believed to be your other self in another dimension experiencing the same thing at the same time. So, maybe, so, okay, that's a whole other. Yes, it sure is. We got to do one on that. So maybe, maybe, having a dream like that could be something similar that your other self in another dimension is experiencing. Never really thought of it like that.

Speaker 1:

Well, casey, what kind of dreams do you have to share? I don't know, man. I used to have a lot of dreams about tornadoes. I've never been in a tornado. You still have the wizard of oz, so I don't know if, like, that tornado in there freaked me out, but I don't really have that much anymore, but here and there, I'll be a tornado dream.

Speaker 1:

Feel like, when it's a dream about severe weather, like that, it could be something in your life that's giving you anxiety. Yeah, something I don't know. I've never really looked up what a yeah tornado dream I have. I don't remember, though, was it reoccurring? Yeah, so that's an interesting thing? Yeah, reoccurring, yeah, so that's an interesting thing, reoccurring dreams about such things.

Speaker 1:

Now you're saying a tornado, oh, I've had some reoccurring dreams. I lived across the street from Lake Michigan, yeah, and there was a cliff right there and I used to have these horrifying dreams that I was a kid and that either there'd be like a tsunami coming from a lake Well, you know, hey, I was a kid and that was very frightening but also that I would be rolling down the cliff and this was this was reoccurring. I would be rolling down the cliff because we'd go there and mess around and go walk down to the lake and whatever, but I'd be falling and I'd hit the water. But as soon as I hit the water I woke up, scared the crap out of me. I keep getting things popping into my head while you're telling me these Tornado didn't have anything pop into my head, but this tells me slow down, and I was a kid. Well, I was a kid who was taking care of a lot of things really. So I mean, maybe slow down was kind of a. Thank goodness I don't have that one anymore.

Speaker 1:

I've had a few different reoccurring dreams in my life when I was a kid and I haven't had this since I was a kid. I used to dream about oh, this is almost embarrassing giant red ants like bigger than my house red ants. That's a little scary. They were scary and like they would like get into the house. They were trying to like get the people in the house and it was me and like my mom, were you fighting the ants? I was only the house. Okay, especially, I've lived in a certain house when I had these dreams. I think after we moved out of the house I didn't have the dreams anymore. But I only lived in that house from the time I was born until I was like seven years old. But I remember these dreams Makes me want to have history on the house. Well, honestly, it's the house I lived in when my dad died. He died in the house. So I mean, I'm curious what a red ant represents to you. I don't know, I've never thought about it. Well, think about it, I have no idea. I'll have to get back to y'all on that.

Speaker 1:

One another reoccurring dream I've had. This one is disgusting and it grosses me out thinking about it um, my teeth falling out. Oh man. And this is a common one for people I've read, because I've looked into this like extensively, because either I'm like, oh shit, my tooth is loose and then it just comes out and it's like, oh, I got another one loose and it falls out, or I've had dreams where they just crumble out of my mouth and there's like you know how sharks have rows of teeth, yeah, and it was kind of like that where it's like they'd fall out and then I'd have new ones. But then they were crumbling up and I'm like gagging and choking on them because they're just wow, it's okay, and teeth gross me out.

Speaker 1:

I'm not one of those moms that keeps my children's teeth because it's fucking disgusting. My daughter, like I, have a 10 year old and a few weeks ago she lost two teeth because you know, she's almost done losing teeth. Yeah, and I'm just like, all right, I don't want to see it. Put it under your pillow for the t-shirt, like I don't. And then I have to like not even look when I go get it, like you're revealing secrets. Well, it's disgusting.

Speaker 1:

Um, but what I've read is usually, when you're having these dreams, it's because you're having some sort of conflict in your family or in your personal life or some sort of conflict. This is in regards to teeth. Yes, wow, I don't know how that really works. But then I thought about it and yeah, anytime I was going through any kind of significant thing, whether it be with family members or marriage or whatever. I've had these dreams. What just came to me is that your teeth must be very important to you and the symbolism of them crumbling and falling out means you're feeling like we're at a loss and out of control of you know what's happening. I think you're right, okay, but in the moment of the time, I'm getting really personal. I'm going gonna get really personal because I, okay, thank you for that, all right, um, you're welcome. This might be a good show, though.

Speaker 1:

Um, when I was a kid, I had really horribly crooked teeth and up until I didn't get braces till I was 16, most kids get them a little younger. I was was 16, almost 17, when I finally got braces and I was made fun of so bad because of my teeth as a kid. They're a little crooked now because I didn't wear a retainer. You have beautiful teeth, christine. Just let the world know let's not talk about my teeth. She has beautiful teeth. God, I feel so weird right now. Mine are fake and they look damn good, but so I think you're right on that aspect.

Speaker 1:

Do you have any dreams? As you know, relates to you know, more so than just reoccurring, more so than just reoccurring, but maybe things that have, you know, freaked you out, frightened you, or what you woke up, something that really made an impact. Yeah, I'm sure I have. I just feel like I don't remember them. I know if I I should have thought about it before we did this podcast, because I'm sure I could have thought of more dreams. Well, just things to kick it off, to start your memory, I don't know. Okay, well, let's get on to a little bit different. Oh, my goodness, I'm probably going to cry when I tell my story. Oh, I'm sorry, it's okay Sad, this is a sad thing. This is sad let's talk about, let's get somber, because what I was gonna say next has nothing to do with sad, just like, totally like. Well, do you want to say that first?

Speaker 1:

Maybe, okay, reoccurring dreams and being in school. That was I've had this forever, but it's changed over time, but I mean it was continuous. I would constantly be having this dream about how that I couldn't find my classroom, I was panicking, I was lost in the school, and then I'd look down and realize I didn't have a freaking shirt on and I'm walking around school like this. Okay, I have some dreams. I would think that in like real life. Like did I wear a shirt to school? Of course you did. Did this ever really happen?

Speaker 1:

I've had dreams about, even as an adult, being in school. I was never without any clothes, but I would be like I don't know where my next class is. I don't remember my locker combination, wasn't that like yeah, totally, um, like, fill you with anxiety, like, oh, my god. And even now, every once in a while, I still have those dreams. But I'm not like tony, I wasn't naked. Hey, now, now I don't have that dream so much. I am actually my age and I'm in the school. Well, yeah, you have clothes on now. No, I'm usually my age too. I was then. Well, for a time I wasn't, and then it was, and then I was like oh, okay, I'm done. I am so old, I shouldn't be in a school right now. They're going to throw me out. That was my realization. That was great, though, and then they kind of stopped yeah, screw these school dreams. No, I still have them. I still have them. What the fuck? Yeah, well, you're not as old as I am. I'm still 43 years old. I shouldn't be having them. I'm still 43 years old, I shouldn't be happy. Okay, so now that we've had the naked school dreams, I, okay how do I want to start this?

Speaker 1:

Dreams about loved ones that have passed away. I believe and I know a lot of people who believe this 100% that that is that person, their spirit, is coming to visit you, to give you a message, to give you comfort, to give you whatever. I agree I've had two that I would never forget. I know I've had more, but I just don't. They weren't something that really made an impact Like the two that I really remember, if that makes any. I know it's kind of weird. You have to tell us the dream to understand what it is that gave you that. So my dad passed away when I was two. I think I've had dreams about him, but nothing that would stick. Does that make sense? Yes, and I know I've had my grandparents come visit me, but nothing that it was like.

Speaker 1:

I remember every single detail of this dream. But my sister was murdered when I was 12 years old, yep, right before I turned 30. No, it was 93. So I was 11, about a month before I turned 12. And the night she, she died in the morning and that night, when I went to bed, I had a dream. So no, it wasn't that night, it was the next day, so it was two days later. Because the day after she passed away I went. She's my half sister, so I went to her mom's house to go see my brothers and her kids, and it was mostly her family, some of my family Um, we share the same dad, but, like I said, my dad passed away when I was two and she was 13 years older. We weren't really close, but she was my sister, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So in my dream we had gone to her mom's house to go pay our respects and everyone's in the house crying because she died in especially in such a violent, tragic way. And I remember walking through the house and then going into the dining room and everyone's still just crying. And I look over and I see her sitting in a chair by the window and I was so confused, like wait a second. So I asked her I go, what are you doing here? Everyone's here because you died. Why are you here? Everyone's here because you died. Why are you here? And this is what chokes me up, okay, so she got up, gave me a hug and she said I wanted to tell you goodbye. So I 100 believe that she was there telling me goodbye. I've never dreamed of her sense, but, and especially when you could feel that hug, you know what I mean and and your spirit was connecting with hers in that moment, yeah, and because I see you, um, tearing up, becoming emotional, this has truly impacted your, the inner core of your being, your soul, and that's truly a moment of goodness, blessing and joy. Right, how beautiful. Yeah, thank you for sharing that. I can't even like. I know I've told my brothers about it, but they kind of they get emotional about it and then that's like guys, they don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 1:

The other dream that I had was my first baby was stillborn, and I know I'm sorry, uh, I remember. And it was the night in the hospital. Well, during the night in the hospital, well, during the day in the hospital, my sister-in-law, my mother-in-law, my other sister-in-law, they all came to the hospital. We were all allowed to hold him and we got to keep him in the room as long as I wanted him there and everyone took time holding him. And in my dream I remember my sister-in-law was holding him. And from my bed, I remember looking out the window and seeing blue sky. First it was clouds and then the clouds parted and it was blue sky and I looked over and the way she was holding him I should not have been able to see his face, but he turned and looked at me and smiled and that's all I remember about you. Well, that's the most beautiful thing ever, because he was looking at you, because you're his mom and he was saying to you I'm okay, happens with a baby um, that it really, uh, in in impacts your life and your mind and your memory and your brain, uh, your emotions, everything about you, because that was a real, real experience, uh, and and so then we did say we talk about spiritual parts of this, right, and I do feel very much that his sweet little soul, yeah, was, you know, communicating with you and letting you know and letting you see his face, because you love him so much. And now you have something right, a vision of him always. Okay, let's lighten it a little bit.

Speaker 1:

My daughter, my daughter, my 17-year-old daughter, she used to have dreams about him and this is her older brother, would be her older brother. She never got to meet. She told me one time that she used to have dreams, when she was like in elementary school, about him and he was a puppy, but he would come to her. How cute, what kind of puppy, I don't know, I don't know, but she used to. That's how she's like. When I used to dream about him I was like, well, maybe he goes to you like that, because that's how you are able to comprehend, yeah, and interpret a little comforting, the love that he's giving you. Oh, that's so sweet, it's sweet. You didn't share that part before. No, I haven't. No, oh, well, there you go.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, I definitely believe loved ones come visit you. I 100 believe that I definitely get messages from, yeah, no doubt, whatever you believe in, whether it's the universe, your spirit guides, your angels, your whatever. They definitely, yeah, I know they come to me in my dreams. Yeah, have you, casey, ever experienced, yeah, that type of a dream I have.

Speaker 1:

My dad passed away about nine years ago and he'll be in my dreams once in a while. We're always like in the mountains, which we love, going to the mountains together. They're always nice dreams. Yeah, we're like showing him, like the latest music I like, because he loved music, made me like music, and so I just am curious when you wake up from that, does your heart feel joyful? It does, yeah. And do you generally have a good day? I do, yeah, it is good, and I always want to tell somebody about it, but I don't want to because I feel like if I tell somebody, it won't happen, like it's yours, it's your personal thing. That's very true in many cases.

Speaker 1:

I also feel sometimes like when I talk about like, not necessarily a dream like that, but a dream like, oh, my god, my guides gave me a message and it was clear, very clear, what they were telling me. Yeah, that people just look at me like you fucking grew another head, you're, you're on something, you're so, not true? Yeah, well, because we're very like-minded. But you know, I met you as a stranger and you said something to me in my early stages of this job, which I've only been here two and a half years but that I you said well, if you have questions about dreams, just ask me. Because we were talking about, I think somebody had mentioned something and I'm like well, I can, well, and then I just happened to start having some crazy dreams. But, christine, you are very, uh, intuitive and you do have a spirit that is beautiful and make me cry, but it's, it's beautiful and kind and it isn't deceptive.

Speaker 1:

So just because this says the Witching Hour doesn't mean anything in a negative manner, it is just well, it's just a title for one, but for two, this lady certainly knows her stuff and is very good at it. You know, what's weird is I've never really studied any of this stuff, it's just things I've picked up. It's stuff that just comes to me naturally. That's. That's right there, it is. It's a natural gift. Yeah, it's a gift. It is, yes. And before we get too far off topic of dreams, uh, I'm going to share one that is a little different. It's not a sad thing like losing a baby, and I am so sorry. Christine, thank you, and Matthew kudos Love you. He likes to still, he plays jokes on me and he keeps you in his heart. You know, yeah, all right, this is All right. I got to say this because of that.

Speaker 1:

I lived with my granny I was like 16 or something and she owned a bar and a restaurant. It was a big building, three stories, and I lived on the third story and there was this old rocking chair and I had this great living area and I witnessed this rocking chair moving, moving, moving, rocking, rocking, and I'm like, and I'm 16. I run down to my granny's room and I'm like, can I just, you know, sleep with you tonight? She's like, well, yes, and then I tell her what was going on and she's like, oh, that's just Michael. Michael was her son, who died when he was 12 of brain cancer. Yet she's like, oh, yeah, and sometimes he comes and tugs at my covers, oh my God. She's like, oh, yeah, and sometimes he comes and tugs at my, my covers, oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 1:

No, you say that because, matthew, what? And I've experienced this with tug at my shirts, like the back of my shirt. Even a week ago, I was at one of the computers here at work and I felt a tug on the back of my, and that's the first thing. I think it's matth and you know it kind of freaks you out. Yeah, yeah, well now Nice beer, but still freaky. Right, right, I mean I was 16. Yeah, I was probably stoned as well, you know. Oh my God. What is going on here, ten times, twice, all right, really doesn't matter anymore. But so my story about um having a visitor is more positive, but still scary.

Speaker 1:

Uh, I was having my second child, um, and trying to figure out a name and you know, I'm come up with you know, whatever it's not really working out. Then I have this dream there's this little girl and she's got big brown eyes and she's got lots of beautiful curly hair Not crazy curly, but just you know, soft curly hair and she said I'm Sage, just like that, I'm Sage. But she was little, a tot, and I was like, and I was like, and then I tell the hubby about this dream and I said I'm pretty sure we're having a girl and her name is sage. Yeah, we named her sage, um, and she, yeah, well, she's a shaker and a mover. I am sage, yep, yep, and it all came true.

Speaker 1:

But it just blew me away that you know, and I've seen some things and heard some other stories of people having these dreams about their child prior to them coming. So I know that she already knew she was coming and she knew what she was going to do. Yeah, and I have no doubt about that. In my mind, however, just that connection was the most beautiful thing and it never caused me to even second guess that that was her name. It never caused me to even second guess that that was her name. And once I met her and she was able to talk. I was blown away. This was a small child filled with wisdom. I'd have to pull the car over and be like what did you just say? Holy cats. And you know now she lives near Washington DC and does those functions and she's amazing. But just to say, wow, that really does happen.

Speaker 1:

And sometimes we're told ahead of time well, because that spirit's like you, better get it right, don't fuck it up, right? Well, I do believe, okay, we're getting off dreams here, but I do believe that that was a dream though, you know, but what I'm going to say is still connected to that, but it's not the dream part of that. I do believe that people who are in your life are part of your soul circle, believe by a lot of people who believe in the same things that you know. Your soul and all these people's in your circle kind of have it mapped out on what's going to happen and you agree before you enter this life, I totally agree on what's going to happen. I love that. And so maybe her soul was like fuck, I don't trust her, she's going to fuck it up. That's her sister, you better get this shit right. I have to tell her because she has to get this right. I totally agree with that 100%. That's awesome. That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

What other kinds of dreams are we? I do have one other realm. This one is a little scary, but it's very real. Um, I was a teenager when I was 18 yeah, I think you're still a kid. You're still a kid too, like 25, and I was. I was a very, uh, adventurous teenager. So, um, I was hitchhiking with someone who's your boyfriend and headed to missouri from wisconsin. I heard this story and so we stopped in Missouri to see his family and hang out for a bit, or whatever. A little weird to me, but okay, but we were going to head out and get back on the road and get those thumbs out there.

Speaker 1:

So the night before this happened, I had this dream and it was pretty vivid in the dream, but again, I didn't really remember everything and it was a little foggy. So we're out there, you know hitchhiking, yada, yada. And then this car pulls up yeah, get in. Well, there are two men in the front seat and a female in the middle. We get in the back seat and I started to have this bad feeling and I'm like, wow, I don't know something's right here. And I leaned a little forward and I saw that they had a knife at her side, the gal that was sitting in the front in the middle. And I'm like, well, you know, they were freaking people for sure. And so I don't know, suddenly something inside of me said, ooh, you know, make a scene. Okay, are we still talking about the dream? No, this is happening now, okay, right, I wasn't clear about that. I'm sorry. You've told me this story before, but we've had a couple drinks it mixes in because I didn't realize the dream until it was actually happening, unlike the freaky thing with the, you know, the beer dream. But so as I'm, you know, like, and jumping out of the vehicle, I have to go to the restroom. You really need to stop here at this place. And they're saying we're going to go panhand restroom. You really need to stop here at this place. And they're saying we're going to go panhandle.

Speaker 1:

I didn't really know what the hell that meant. I kind of was thinking, you know, shaking for gold in the water. Oh, my god, I was young. So, you know, after I saw the knife in this girl's side, I'm like, well, shit, you know. So we side. I'm like, well, shit, you know. So we? Okay, where was your boyfriend at this time, sitting next to me, total loser? Okay, he was a loser. And they finally pulled over to a gas station and I went in and I'm like, oh hell, no, I'm not going back to that. Then it all starts coming to me. It's the green car in the dream. So I didn't share that portion of the dream because it didn't come cognitively to me.

Speaker 1:

Your dream, all of a sudden, oh, I remember my dream and then everything was happening just as I saw it, and it was like you need to get away, you need to get out here. This is your life. Because that day I feel like my life was saved because of my dream. Because these people are freaking insane, and you know, that's like I say, dreams are never I don't feel like they're ever just dreams. There's a reason you have them. There's always some reason why you're having this, whether it's you're stressing out about something, so you're dreaming about it. Well, maybe you're dreaming about it because there's something. Know, that's what was gonna happen next, man, I was like, oh, and you know I ran. But yeah, that was a pretty freaky thing because, as it all became reality to me. I was like, oh, oh damn, this is happening before my eyes, oh crazy. I've never really had dreams that like that's nuts, it is nuts, it is, and I'm quite happy to be alive. So Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Spirit guides, angels, seriously, heavenly Father, they are there and they intervene and you don't even know. Many times this is true, like I read something on Facebook one day that said if you forget something and have to turn home and go get it or go back in the house to go get it, wait a few minutes because there's something you could be avoiding some sort of accident or whatever. Yes, my mom always talks about a story where she was driving home from denver and we lived about 30 minutes from like north of denver at the time and driving home and going down i-25 her she was having car problems and has to exit off um one of the off ramps and she couldn't get her car started back up and as she was sitting there on the off ramp, there was a major like several car pile up that she avoided because her car and then, after that happened, her car started. So you know, and then that's the part that makes this a spiritual situation, right, and you know, I think that we should always pay attention to what you know, we are being told, especially in our dreams. I mean, we haven't even touched on the visitation so much of happy, joyful things, but there's many.

Speaker 1:

I definitely recommend for people who feel like they're like me and their dreams definitely mean something and they need to be remembering and they need to get a journal. Write down either what you remember from the dream and have it right next to your bed so that you don't forget. I haven't written in it in forever, but I have one. Also, if you don't remember your dream, write down your first thoughts upon waking. Yeah, I know that there's been times where I don't remember my dream, but I've had like a series of numbers in my head when I wake up or a series of just random words in my head when I wake up. Write them down and then, after a week, two weeks, whatever, go through and read each one and see if you can find a connection between them, and that's definitely what I recommend. I think that's awesome and I totally believe that you will. I need to get back into that.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I used to have a little tape recorder next to my bed because I'd get inspired in the middle of the night To write, to write or collect information from my brain about beautiful things and writing, and so then I lost all the tapes, but you know that would make me so sad. It did because my mother-in-law threw them all out. It's like, yeah, but you know, I do believe that that is a beautiful thing to do. I do believe that that is a beautiful thing to do and it also allows you to have another dimension of your life, right, yeah, just like adding how great is that? You know, and it's very personal to you, you know, and how great is that. What a wonderful gift. It's definitely a way to develop whatever. If you have some sort of ability like mine, or gifts or right, to develop that. Yes, definitely a way to. I don't even know where I'm going with that.

Speaker 1:

Well, here's the other thing about that too is that because I'm older than both you gals, you know you're writing down those things and whatever. And you think, oh, I'll remember that shit. Well, you don't, right. And then you have a log of life and beautiful things. I can tell you right now I would not remember that shit. Well, I don't, I don't, and I've had bosses that have. Okay, don't forget. You need to do this right. And then I forget and it's, yeah, two seconds, and it's like you need to start writing things down because you're always forgetting. But I have read somewhere it's people who are very forgetful like that usually have like higher IQs and are. That's right, because that's me just kidding. Well, I do find that. You know, being at this point in life, I'm just gonna say it. I'm just going to say it I'm 62.

Speaker 1:

It's been a long journey and there's been a lot of things in my life that were really impactful. I would say my life has probably been full of a lot more activity than most. Well, I know that you're always telling me stories and I'm like, hey, email this to me so I could share some of these creepy ass stories on my show, write it down. But I'm doing all right today. Well, the story, the definitely the story that you told about the dream and then the knife and all that, oh god, I know you've told me that before and I'm like this is a really good. Well, see, that impacted my life, because it saved my life Knowing that in that moment that that's the car, as soon as I was outside of that car at that gas station, I knew, oh my gosh, my life is in jeopardy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you know, I mean I was a crazy adventurer. But wow, you know, and I know that there's been many times in my life that you know, some things have stepped in to very spiritual part of dreams and the impact that that has. And however which way you look at it, there's always a message. Well, even if it's just like I said, because you're stressing about something and so you dream about it, there's still a message in that, no matter what, no matter what age you are's still gonna matter. Yeah, you know dreams, yeah, especially for me, dreams are never just dreams. There's something there. Well, I agree with that, 100%, I do. And how long have we been chatting on? It's been 57 minutes. Ooh, we did a good episode. It's been great, considering most of my episodes are 10 minutes.

Speaker 1:

Well, and so, with the end of this episode, I'm going to share a recipe. Yeah, because we've had a couple drinks while sitting here. They're brand new and we just tried them out. We kind of made them up. I don't know if they're an actual drink, but we just threw some shit together and so what we did was a vodka and a tumbler with ice. Then we put one shot of vodka, elderflower tonic water and filled that to just about a quarter to the top. So I would say, a shot of vodka, a shot and a half of that, oh no, I guess, no, no, two shots. I'm going to say you only want to leave a quarter of the top. I guess, no, no. Or two shots. I'm going to say you only want to leave a quarter of the top. So okay, so fill it with ice and then a shot of vodka, fill it till you have about a quarter of the glass left and then top it off with a splash of cranberry juice. Perfect, it's delightful. I think you will all enjoy this. Elderflower tonic is a new thing that I found on the market and it's delightful, it's really delightful. Make a drink, think about your dreams. This is perfect.

Speaker 1:

Now that we've all teared up and we've had some laughs, and let's see, you can find me on Facebook, on Instagram, tiktok even though I don't really post on TikTok that much. Also Spotify, spotify well, I'm on more than just spotify, but, um, follow on spotify if you can give a five star rating, um. But one thing I do have a link for my website in the show notes and you can subscribe For as little as $3 a month. Definitely, comment On the episodes. You can even get on Facebook and give us a rating Share. Definitely, share with all your friends, because we need listeners and that would definitely help me out.

Speaker 1:

Am I forgetting anything? Thank you, audience, for listening to Casey and Tony and Christine, and we have thoroughly enjoyed our time with you and it would really be remarkable if you made comments about this episode. Let us know, give us feedback and let me know. Let us know how these two did, because they've never been on a podcast before and I would love to have them back on and we should do this more often. I agree, love you, ladies, and all I'm going to say is sweet dreams everyone. Bye.